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Re: [Comment] Commodities boom intact, says Jim Rogers
« Reply #45 on: September 11, 2010, 12:29:02 AM »
one month in. and there's some sort of a runaway in soft commodities.

some say it's the weather. some say it's because of some "fat fingers".

what do you guys think?

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Re: [Comment] Commodities boom intact, says Jim Rogers
« Reply #46 on: September 11, 2010, 02:55:48 PM »
sell before year end. :p

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Re: [Comment] Commodities boom intact, says Jim Rogers
« Reply #47 on: November 23, 2010, 02:19:51 AM »
unlikely. looks like the money in commodities will stay.

it's worth money in physical stock rather than virtual stuff.

as with the de of the USD, every else in relationships will go north.
only question again is at what kind of co-relation?

it's going to be a whirlwind commodities cycle.
very windy, very wet for many. especially in the soft sector.

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Rise and Rise of U.S. Stocks; Record in Copper, Oil at 2-year High
« Reply #48 on: December 23, 2010, 08:27:55 AM »
http://www.123jump.com/europe/market-update/Rise-and-Rise-of-U.S.-Stocks;-Record-in-Copper,-Oil-at-2-year-High/42135/
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Rise and Rise of U.S. Stocks; Record in Copper, Oil at 2-year High
Author: Bikram Pandey
123jump.com
Last Update: 4:24 PM ET December 22 2010   

U.S. indexes closed at a 2-year high as regional banks and resource stocks led the gainers. Crude oil topped $90 a barrel and copper closed to a record high and soared 28% in the year as a single trader holds 90% of stockpile. Walgreen rises and Nike falls.

 
4:00 PM New York – U.S. indexes closed at a 2-year high as regional banks and resource stocks led the gainers. Crude oil topped $90 a barrel and copper closed to a record high and soared 28% in the year as a single trader holds 90% of stockpile. Walgreen rises and Nike falls.

U.S. indexes closed up at a 2-year high as investors bid up regional banks, retailers and home builders. The smaller and regional banks surged as investors surmised that larger banks will look for acquisition targets. Oil complex stocks also closed higher after crude oil closed at a two-year high.

Third quarter GDP expansion estimate was increased to 2.6% from the previous estimate of 2.5% but mortgage refinancing activity fell. Revised increase in inventories outpaced the smaller than previously estimate growth in consumer spending.

London Metal Exchange reported that a single trader is holding 90% of copper stock pile worth $3 billion and almost half of global exchange-registered storage and did not name the firm.

TD Bank acquired Chrysler Financial for $6.3 billion. Jacobs Engineering agreed to buy Aker Solutions'' business unit for $675 million. Teradata agreed to acquire Aprimo for $525 million.

Carnival fourth quarter revenues increased 7% to $3.50 billion. Humana completed acquisition of Concentra Inc. in $790 million. Nike, second quarter revenues increased 10% to $4.84 billion but stock declined after the shoe maker guided rising costs of labor and material.

Red Hat, third quarter total revenues increased 21%. Walgreen, first quarter net sales increased 6% to $17.34 billion after the company slowed new store openings and controlled the costs.

The European indexes traded mixed after Greece received fresh downgrade warning as lawmakers haggle to approve austerity measures. German import prices climbed in November and Italian retail sales rose in October. Denmark economy expanded in the third quarter. The Czech central bank held interest rates.

The UK indexes gained and third quarter GDP growth was lowered and current account deficit widened. The Bank of England policy makers were split at the last meeting. Irish trade surplus widened in October.

Tokyo stocks edged lower after hitting a fresh 7-month high intra-day as investors booked profits for the weekend. Bank of Japan confirmed 25 trillion yen bonds and assets purchase. Exports surge 9% in November.

Shanghai stock indexes dropped 1% after Korea announced a plan to conduct second live-military exercise on Monday. China increase retail energy prices again. State-Grid of China acquires seven power distributors in Brazil with a 30-year license to operate the power lines for $1 billion.

Mumbai stocks dropped in choppy trade. Gartner latest report noted that India continues to be the favorite destination for outsourcing. World Bank awards India a loan of $1.5 billion for development of rural roads and infrastructure.

Abbott India fourth quarter net profit rose 7.9%. Mafatlal Industries reported a net loss in second quarter. NHPC agreed to set up 2,100 megawatt of hydro-electricity. State Bank of India plans to acquire second bank in Indonesia.

Australian indexes edged up and BHP Billiton led gainers. Australia’s corporate regulator initiated legal proceedings against three banks over the collapse of Storm Financial in 2009. Lynas Corp received approval from Malawi government to acquire a rare earth resource for $4 million.

Commodities, Currencies and Yields

Dollar edged up against euro to $1.309 and fell against the Japanese yen to 83.55. One UK pound fetched $1.53.

Crude oil increased $0.36 to $89.73 a barrel for a front month contract, natural gas edged higher 5 cents to $4.11 per mBtu and gasoline increased 2.6 cents to 242.45 cents.

Gold decreased $3.60 in New York trading to close at $1,385.20 per ounce, silver decreased $0.09 to $29.30 per ounce and copper for the front month delivery increased 0.45 cents to $4.28 per pound.

Yield on 10-year U.S. bond increased to 3.34% and on 30-year U.S. bond yield closed unchanged at 4.44%.

note the section in bold.

how healthy is that?

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Re: [News] Singapore cashing in on the biggest commodities boom in 30 years
« Reply #49 on: December 30, 2010, 04:09:09 AM »
runaway train now.

will it derail?

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Re: [News] Singapore cashing in on the biggest commodities boom in 30 years
« Reply #50 on: August 03, 2011, 08:57:42 AM »
are we still cashing in on the commodity play?

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Re: Commodity, Commodities.
« Reply #51 on: September 23, 2011, 10:27:30 AM »
copper.

20th US$8339
23rd US$7560

in 3 days, a good 9 odd % drop.

in terms of SGD though, it's a small drop using 1.21 to 1.3.

10090 to 9828. that's 2.6%.

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Decline in Commodities Is 'Artificial': Jim Rogers
« Reply #52 on: November 23, 2011, 08:06:44 AM »
Decline in Commodities Is 'Artificial': Jim Rogers
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The recent decline in commodity prices have little to do with fundamentals and everything to do with the collapse of brokerage firm MF Global, says renowned investor Jim Rogers, who described the sell-off as artificial.

"With MF Global going bankrupt – which was a gigantic commodities firm – there was a lot of artificial forced liquidation of commodities. People have to sell whether they like it or not. It's artificial selling right now," Rogers told CNBC on Wednesday.

The CRB Jefferies Index – which serves as a measure of the broad commodities complex – has fallen 4 percent since MF Global declared bankruptcy nearly 4 weeks ago. Agricultural commodities have been the hardest hit, with rice futures falling more than 14 percent and wheat futures down 9 percent in the period.

Rogers says the drop isn’t surprising. "This happened before in 2008, when Lehman and AIG went bankrupt, they were both huge in commodities and everybody had to sell," he said, referring to the onset of the global financial crisis in late 2008, when the CRB Index fell by half in a matter of months. Prices have rebounded since, climbing nearly 60 percent from March 2009 to May this year, when the sector took a hit again on concerns over the headwinds facing the global economy.

Rogers remains bullish on the sector, saying investors will benefit whether the global economy improves or not.

"I'm long commodities and currencies, because if the world gets better, the shortages in commodities will make sure I make money; if the world economy doesn't get better, I'd rather own commodities because they're going to print money," he said, referring to the easy monetary policy central banks have taken in the last few years to stimulate anemic growth.

"Throughout history, when things have gone wrong, they print money...when they print money, you should own silver [XAG=  32.30    -0.40  (-1.22%)], you should own rice, you should own real assets."

Rogers says he is using the recent drop in prices to accumulate agricultural commodities, and is waiting to add positions in gold [XAU=  1702.79    3.00  (+0.18%)]. While he expects the yellow metal to reach $2,400 sometime in the next five to twenty years, he believes its run-up in the last 11 years has been "unusual" and needs a "rest".

"Gold could go down a fair bit more...but I'm certainly going to buy more gold if it goes down and silver."

This not a time to buy stocks, Rogers added, and says he is shorting the asset class.

"This is like the 1970s, in the 1970s stocks did nothing. Commodities went through the roof. I'm short stocks and long commodities for the most part."

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now, what made him say that?

just because he's the commodity guy per se?
or because he's extremely vested in it?

i'm not that with him this time round.

there's certainly too much around, and certainly plenty around to share.
if so, that would mean a supply excess. and in econ 101, that will mean even if demands hold. the point will drop.