Tharman says not govt's role to comment on GIC, Temasek investments
By Wong Siew Ying, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 21 January 2008 1812 hrs
SINGAPORE: It is not the government's role to comment on or second-guess whether it was timely for the Government of Singapore Investment Corporation (GIC) and Temasek Holdings to make their recent investments, Finance Minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam said.
Responding to a question in Parliament on how GIC and Temasek Holdings had injected funds into distressed banks like UBS and Merrill Lynch, the minister said, "They make these decisions for commercial reasons based on calculations free of any influence from the government."
"The government is assured that both GIC and Temasek have thoroughly assessed the risk in each of these investments and have made hard-headed commercial decisions after careful assessment of the risk and the prospect for returns over the long term," he stressed.
The MP for Ang Mo Kio GRC, Inderjit Singh, asked, "In July last year, Temasek invested a few billion dollars into Barclays Bank... From what I understand, these values have now gone down to half of the investment.
"Is the minister not worried that if GIC and Temasek continue with this kind of multi-billion (dollar) investments all in one sector - in the banks, this could quickly wipe out a significant portion of our reserves?"
The minister replied, "We have to leave it to them - timing, decision as to whether to invest, how to protect yourself in each investment, which GIC and Temasek have indeed done in each of these large deals...
"We do have an understanding with both GIC and Temasek as to the government's overall risk tolerance, so this is not a situation where we are completely hands-off." - CNA/ac
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you cannot question PAP Hitler
PAP hilter can question you
Minister is right that govt shouldnt interfere with what GIC and Temasek do.
Last thing we need is some politicians taking decisions which an investment banker should take. Its also wise for him not to talk too much about these funds as markets can react violently to any loose comment.
Only downside I see is that Soverign Wealth Funds like GIC arent active in the board of companies. So they dont have much say in the functioning of the company. But I guess that is necessary to avoid any misunderstandings which can occur when a government fund is investing in some high profile foreign company.
Good returns will always come with associated risks. If GIC/Temasek have to keep their returns ahead of inflation, they have to take some risks. Now unless the whole financial industry goes up in smoke, long term returns for Merrill, Citi, Barclays, UBS should be decent.
No one is being asked to resign over debacles with losses of billions of dollars, one after another. Ministry of Finance is accountable to the citizens of Singapore, Temasek is accountable to the Ministry of Finance. Where's the accountability?
E.g
Merrill Lynch & Co. CEO Stan O'Neal
Citigroup Inc. Chairman Chief Executive Charles Prince
UBS CEO Peter Wuffli
Bear Stearns (BSC) CEO James Cayn
Firing of high level executives as well as "resigning".
What's next? Mr T's catchphrase "I pity the fool!" might become very true.... Temasek can still work well with another "leader", since it doesn't matter right? It's all about the money, and there's more where that came from.
I really really hope you are just being sarcastic, and not ignorant.
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GIC Board of Directors
1. CHAIRMAN
Mr Lee Kuan Yew
Minister Mentor
2. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN
Mr Lee Hsien Loong
Prime Minister
Minister for Finance
3. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN
& EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
Dr Tony Tan Keng Yam
Former Deputy Prime Minister &
Coordinating Minister for
Security & Defence
DIRECTORS
4. Mr Lim Hng Kiang
Minister for Trade & Industry
5. Mr Tharman
Shanmugaratnam
Minister for Education &
Second Minister for Finance
6. Mr Raymond Lim
Minister for Transport &
Second Minister for Foreign Affairs
7. Dr Richard Hu Tsu Tau
Former Minister for Finance
Chairman, GIC Real Estate
8. Mr Ang Kong Hua
Executive Director
NatSteel Ltd
GIC = Govt
since they sit on the board
The irony's so absurd sometimes its satirical
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I really really hope you are just being sarcastic, and not ignorant.
Being board of directors does not actually mean that they are involved in the running though..
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Originally Posted by Inix
Being board of directors does not actually mean that they are involved in the running though..
So what's their role and responsibility? Sit there and collect director's fee on top of their astronomical pay scale? They're involved, beginner investor 101.
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So what's their role and responsibility? Sit there and collect director's fee on top of their astronomical pay scale? They're involved, beginner investor 101.
That depends on the corporate charter to see how much power the board of director actually have. Most of the time, the BOD is a silent governing body that serves only to read books, have corporate meetings that takes place at expensive locations etc, and yes, get paid director fees.
They will probably need to move in, or to say anything, when there is a in-effective performance year on year.
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Nothing to do with the fact that the Ministry of Finance owns GIC and Temasek and some MPs hold directorships in those companies?
GIC website clarifies on these points
http://www.gic.com.sg/aboutus_check.htm
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Corporate Governance
GIC was formed on 22 May 1981 as a private company under the Companies’ Act and is wholly owned by the Government of Singapore. GIC does not own the funds it manages, but manages them on behalf of its clients; the Government of Singapore and the Monetary Authority of Singapore. The Ministry of Finance represents the Government in dealing with GIC. The clients set the investment objectives for GIC and monitor its performance. GIC receives a fee to finance its operating expenditure. The GIC management team runs the day-to-day operations of the company and is given the autonomy to decide where and how to invest, recruit and remunerate. In turn, the management reports to its own Board of Directors which provides overall guidance and direction. GIC is accountable to its clients.
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The President is entitled, at his request, to any information concerning GIC. In addition, GIC is regularly audited by the Auditor-General.
So the board will set acceptable level of risks and expected returns from GIC investments. How and where the investments are made is left in the hand of bankers (GIC management) who know what they are doing. There are also external audits to keep an eye on their account books. If the board..or rather the politicians in the board start suggesting where/how GIC should invest, then things will be bad indeed.
Overall board of directors are not always impacted by the bad performances of companies. Its the CEO who has to take the fall because he is the one who guides and monitors the day to day operations of a company. In cases like Citibank and UBS, board fired the CEO and elected a new one. They themselves were safe even after the astronomical losses those banks ran up. Something which a lot of their investors didnt like....
Its not so much an issue of job scope but of responsibilities. We can argue about the BOD all year round and still won't get a definite answer. Some BOD micromanages, some are very lax and do nothing between Board meetings.
This is OUR Government we are talking about the Government has a responsibility to ensure that our tax and CPF money is used wisely.
No one is asking the Government to step in and micromanage GIC and TH. If it is their money, fine, they can do what they like and are answerable only to the legal system and to their lenders. But we are talking about the national coffers here, and they have to be accounted for.
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erm, if it's not the govt role to comment/question on the GICs... then who will???
keyword : accountability.
where does it start? where does it end?