Ram and Ram Price Movement

[zuoom]

Rams are like the engine CC of a car. the more ram you have, the more responsive the computer is. llikewise for the car, the bigger the CC, the more kickass it is. heh.

the below is something from VRzone on rams. if it's too much to read. i would summarise for you. now is the time to buy rams. DDR2 especially. /end

if you are going to the newer Windows Vista OS. do stock up to 2GB at least plus a good video card to enjoy the experience. otherwise, stick to 1GB running WinXP.

enjoy the read below.

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?p=3763433#post3763433
Posted by: cuxyzOn: Yesterday 11:12 PM

The DRAM spot price remains unchanged today with low transactions.  The difference is that the daily express uses a stronger statement to describe the market conditions - "The market momentum was sluggish in spot market today, and both offers and inquires were inactive..." If the spot price remain the same tomorrow, this will be the first week (DRAMeXchange computes weekly summary based on Tuesday price) that DRAM weekly price closes higher since the start of price collapse on 11 Dec 06.  So it has found its first support point, but only a weak one as it is not supported by high volume. Why nobody is buying?  I don't know, I can't find any clue.  There is a conflicting report from Digitimes.  tenyawph has reproduced it in this thread

(http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?t=1590564&page=35&pp=15) (post 518) - the current price of DRAM has exceeded production costs. You can also read the opinion of UTAC Taiwan president on the balance point in supply and demand and the market trend.************

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?p=3763556#post3763556
Posted by: cuxyzOn: Yesterday 11:31 PM

On the SLS retail price, the shops have gone through a few rounds of price adjustment.  The price seems to converge at $54 - $55 (far exceeding my previous guess of $51 - $52, see post 17).  The only exception is PCT, of which the price is $51.  We have to see whether PCT is taking part in the PC show.

Below is a record of the price changes (no update on 26/5 and 27/5, Saturday and Sunday). Don't know whether there was a "body language" by BB on 25/5. 

24/5 (by Cloudiax)
BB $52
Bel $51
Fuw $50

PCT $54 25/5 (by me, unconfirmed means data from pricelist only)
BB $56
CASH $53 (unconfirmed)
Fuw $50 (unconfirmed)
JM $53
Las $51 (unconfirmed)
PCT $54
TrP $49 (4 pieces), $54

VP $52 28/5 (by Cloudiax, checking through phone calls)
BB $54
Bel $54
CASH $55
Cmx $55
Las $55
PCT $51
VP $54

source : VRzone forums
http://forums.vr-zone.com/

[Vorsprung durch Technik]

i don't concur that more ram means more responsive.. in contrast, it will take a while to load up the systems. however, the benefits are weight more than the dis-advantages. with more ram, you can run simultaneously more software programs at the same time.

[zuoom]

paul, more rams take longer to load up the system?

maybe on the servers side when during booting up, it goes thru the bit check, etc.

but for consumer computers, my limited personal experience tells me otherwise.

more ram is always better for me. extra ram doing nothing?
can allocate it as swap files.. ie: taking out those harddisk swap files.
or as in Windows Vista, can allocate it as a "system boost". (rather than using a usb stick or memory card.)

i do recall though last time my computer was running fine on 8MB of rams. heh. now 2GB is like normal. heh. .P

[klumpkeTT]

however u are only partially solving the problems as by increasing the RAM u may be increasing your 'virtual' memory but then there are the other bottlenecks in the system. eg: slow VGA card. slow processor. slow MoBo.... hence, u will not get the full potential of your 2GB RAM.
Usually if i upgrade, i change everything....

eg: My friends computer has the latest. 3.2Ghz w 268MB VGA w 1GB RAM runs SO much better than my 2.4GHz w 268Mb VGA w 2GB RAM......

[Vorsprung durch Technik]

it's a fact that more ram will take a while to boot (be it server or desktop) the additional bit check on servers' rams is for hardware resiliency(however more than one chip dies, you still got to replace the whole thingy).

anyway just as like cars, you don't have to upgrade all at one time.. you can do it slowly as and when needed.

[zuoom]

*updates.

cuxyz

In Dram spot market today, the buying momentum was aggressive in DDRII, and the market seemed to be bullish, therefore, the overall prices had adjusted upward with ascending transaction volumes. As for DDRI, the prices kept dropping slightly with descending transactions. For 512Mb(64M*8)667/533MHz, the prices went up to USD1.84/1.82 respectively. As for UTT(ETT)DDR1, the prices of 64M*8/400 were around USD2.65, with soft demands. For UTT(ETT)DDR2 64M*8/667MHz, the demand had obviously improved in the market today. Moreover, most buyers speculated in the uptrend, and it also led the price fluctuated in a wide range. Finally the price had risen to USD1.74 with active transaction activities.

The "More Good Years" is now over for consumers.

After a 4-day of no trading break, the DRAM spot price today has gone further up by 16.68%, making a total of 23.5% over the last 3 trading days (starting last Thursday, after my post #47).

Newegg has not raised the price. Those who has missed the purchase can still buy from them.

[celitat]

from my personal experience, the fastest boot up time can be acheived by:

- going into the F10 configuration page and deactivating all the unneccesary stuffs.
- changing the disk boot order. ie, boot from os disk only and remove the floppy disk, cdr, network, etc from the list.
- plug up all the ide ports (sata, pata, etc). i have 4 harddisks and 2 cd/dvd drives. ie...
sata0: 1 x 80g sata harddisk.
sata1: 1 x 80g sata harddisk. (both configured for raid1 array)
pata0: 1 x 80g pata (master) + 1 dvd (slave).
pata1: 1 x 80g pata (master) + 1 cdr (slave).
- partitioning os disk to 10g only. (smaller = faster, lesser space to read for data mar, but cannot be too small)
- moved virtual memory to another non-os harddisk.

my boot up time is 35-45sec from power on button to logon screen. the "windows booting screen"'s blue scrolling bar only scrolls 3 - 3.5 times before logon page comes on. i'm using intel's p4 motherboard with 875P chipset with hyper threading and only 2 x 512mb ddr 400 sdram in dual channel (effectively 512mb in parallel).

http://support.intel.com/design/motherbd/bz/index.htm

cpu and ram is not everything. the chipset is just as important. in fact, most of the time, this is when the bottleneck occurs.

[Vorsprung durch Technik]

i think if you are not running raid 1, you can get another 1-2 sec off the total. but then you will be at risk of more downtime and data loss in the event the main harddisk crashes.

[celitat]

correct...that why i choose raid1 instead of raid0...data too precious to lose...

[zuoom]

how's the prices of ram now?

[Vorsprung durch Technik]

dirt cheap. go check out the real prices in the coming comex show

[zuoom]

comex is not regular prices. it's lelong promos.
anywhere from 5-25% off regular prices.

i notice that the prices of rams have actually gone up just a ta. likewise for some LCDs. going by per square inch.

[zuoom]

if you haven't notice. prices of ram are on a uptrend.
probably due to the massive number of devices that require it. ie: iPad, iPhone, netbooks, ultra slim/portable laptops, to desktop replacement, to IC recorders, to camera etc.

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here's something via HWz.

Everyone still remember Patriot. It was in SLS for a while then it disappear. Now it reappear again , thanks to distro Kaira.

Today I have with me the G series:

DDR3 1600 Low latency CL7 (7-7-7-20) for AMD users. I think this set will be ideal to pair with the AMD X6 CPU. Voltage is 1.7v. Let me try and see whether it works with Core i5/i7 later





SRP: $242

and DDR3 1600 CL9 2 x 4Gb Kit for Core i5/i7 users. This is the Low Voltage that comply with Intel Spec @ 1.65v





SRP: $668

I got my set in PC Themes. Stocks are limited. Hurry for those who wanted to build AMD systems or Core i5/i7.

The price of the RAMS has increased over the past few weeks. New batches of ram price will continue to rise.

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=2734425

[zuoom]

what's the prices of ram nowadays?

on top of massive amount of ram, the next best thing is to opt for SSD (solid state disk).

they will bump up the performance of the computer in double quick time.

[Silver Bullet]

Just checking, any 1 knows memory module makers local/overseas??..