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Re: [NGV] Alternative Fuel aka CNG
« Reply #60 on: November 10, 2008, 11:51:09 AM »
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[SIZE="1"]Come next week, CNG prices are set to fall. Smart Energy has published an advance price of $1.48 per kg for Nov 10. -ST [/SIZE]
 
UNDER the Singapore Initiative in New Energy Technology (Sinergy), six Mercedes-Benz A-class fuel-cell cars arrived in 2004 to undergo testing in a tropical, urban environment.

F-Cell cars work by using a catalyst to combine hydrogen and oxygen to produce electricity, with only heat and water as by-products.

This so-called "zero-emission" process makes the cars very quiet, with the high-torque electric motor well-suited for urban driving.

The partnership between Daimler and BP, which supplied the fuel, came to an end in March when the latter decided to close its stations, citing the present non-viability of fuel-cell cars.

Daimler is currently searching for another partner to build more stations within the city for proper field testing to resume.

 


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A lighter alternative

AT THE Smart Energy Mandai station, a Mercedes-Benz taxi is filled with compressed natural gas (CNG).

Prices, which are pegged to that of High Sulphur Fuel Oil (HSFO), have been steadily rising from $1.28 per kg in February to above $1.60 per kg on Nov 8.
 
Come next week, they are once again set to fall in tandem with HSFO prices, with Smart Energy publishing an advance price of $1.48 per kg for Nov 10 on its website.

About 2,700 out of 850,000 vehicles here are equipped to run on CNG, and some owners prefer to refill in Malaysia, where the price of gas, at 32 cents per kg, is one-fifth that in Singapore.
 
Source: http://www.asiaone.com/Motoring/Motorworld/Story/A1Story20081110-99537.html

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Re: CNG. Save, Safe, Clean.
« Reply #61 on: November 12, 2008, 03:40:59 AM »
(News) Man dies after homemade natural gas cylinder explodes
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What do you think about CNG Technology ?
« Reply #62 on: November 29, 2008, 09:47:32 AM »
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Two new CNG stations to open
« Reply #63 on: December 02, 2008, 12:56:16 AM »
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The Straits Times, dated 1 Dec 2008.

Two new CNG stations to open 
World's 2nd biggest to be built in Bukit Timah; Serangoon North's set for Feb opening  
By Christopher Tan, Senior Correspondent 

DRIVERS of cars which run on compressed natural gas (CNG) can expect more competitive prices when two new refuelling stations open in the next few months.
One station will be in Serangoon North, and the other - to be the world's second biggest - will be in Old Toh Tuck Road, in the Bukit Timah area.

For Mr Wong Chee Wei, who drives a Chevrolet Optra Magnum CNG, the Serangoon North station is good news. It is not far from his Aljunied home, which will save him a long drive to the Mandai station. The 34-year-old customer service representative said: 'I only wish it could have opened earlier.'

About 3,300 vehicles here use CNG, up from virtually none before 2006. They are mainly cars and taxis, granted tax breaks for being environmentally friendlier than their petrol or diesel counterparts.

Besides the station in Mandai Link, the only other CNG stations are in Jalan Buroh and on Jurong Island; the latter is not an option unless motorists work in the high-security area. The Mandai and Jalan Buroh stations often see long queues.

Smart Energy, which owns the Mandai station, is building the one in Serangoon North. 'The roof is up,' said managing director Johnny Harjantho. 'We expect it to open for business in February.'

The station will have eight pumps, with provision for another eight, and costs about $12 million.

The other new station, a 38-pump affair in Old Toh Tuck Road, is being built by bottled cooking gas supplier Union Energy. Worldwide, it is second in size only to a new 44-pump facility in Bangkok.

Construction of the $13 million facility is expected to start in February. A Union Energy spokesman said it is expected to open early in the second half of next year, possibly in July.

Mr Alexander Melchers, who chairs Singapore's newly-formed CNG Committee - a body representing nearly 20 companies in the CNG business here - said the increased competition would lower the fuel price. The gap between CNG and petrol rates can be expected to widen.

The two stations do not have any incentive to lower prices quickly now, since long queues are snaking out of them, noted Mr Melchers.

Meanwhile, CNG prices are set to fall today.

Mr Harjantho said the rate will fall to $1.39 per kg, from $1.48 now. Petrol now costs $1.603 for a litre of 92-octane before discount. A kg of CNG gives the mileage of about 1.3 litres of petrol.

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Re: What do you think about CNG Technology ?
« Reply #64 on: December 02, 2008, 12:57:07 AM »

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Re: [NGV] Alternative Fuel aka CNG
« Reply #65 on: December 02, 2008, 03:37:38 PM »
they can open as many stations as they want but 'they' (gas importers) have killed their local demand for cng by raising their gas prices.

naturnal gas, in earlier times, is considered a by product as this gas (c1-c6) has to be stripped from the unstablised crude oil and burned off. it is a must to strip these natural gases as the vapour pressure of crude oil is too high for safe transporting and storing.

cng conversions have come to a screeching halt according to most conversion workshops.

guess they should relook at the strategy if cng is to be successful in singapore.
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Re: [NGV] Alternative Fuel aka CNG
« Reply #66 on: December 02, 2008, 03:40:27 PM »
erm, the genie47 guy the use alot of CNG ... he dun pump in Singapore... .P

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Do CNG cars have a future?
« Reply #67 on: February 12, 2009, 02:00:44 AM »
Green rebates will end and their clean-fuel advantage could be lost
By Christopher Tan, Senior Correspondent

   
ARE compressed natural gas (CNG) vehicles viable here?

After a slow but steady introduction of tax breaks and funding assistance from the Government, after the opening of two refuelling stations on the main island (with two more to come this year), and after last year's record pump prices, you would think we would have by now a clear answer to that question.

The truth is we are not much closer to finding an answer than when an inter-ministerial committee started studying CNG's feasibility back in the 1990s.

Last year's spurt in CNG vehicle numbers - with bi-fuel car numbers growing by more than 10 times over 2007's 248 - may be interpreted as a positive development.

But the boom was in fact on the back of motor dealers aggressively marketing gas-retrofitted cars - based solely on the 40 per cent green vehicle tax cut accorded to environmentally friendlier vehicles. The upfront savings work out to be $6,100 for something small like a Honda Airwave and $14,400 for a Toyota Estima - one of the most commonly-converted cars here.

Alas it was also on the back of ill-informed consumers who knew little about CNG cars, other than the fact that they are cheaper because of the tax break.

Many new owners soon became disenfranchised. They discovered that CNG cars need to be refuelled frequently because of their limited range. And that there are long queues at CNG stations.

Some retrofitters did not do a good job, resulting in poor performance in many cases, and vehicle-stalling in some. The quality of CNG gas can fluctuate, leading to unpredictable engine efficiency.

Of the 2,500 converted cars here today, many run mainly on petrol - often lugging a huge, heavy and empty CNG tank in the boot.

When pump prices fell back to saner levels towards the last quarter of last year, interest in gas cars dissipated quickly, largely also because CNG suppliers were slow in lowering rates.

Around the same time, there was growing speculation that the Government may lift a tax exemption on CNG vehicles. That looked to be the final nail in the coffin.

Of the 20 motor workshops which ventured into CNG retrofitting, 10 have stopped the business. New sales of CNG vehicles slowed to a crawl in the final months of the year.

Last month, during the Budget announcement, the Government shed new light when it said the tax exemption will carry on. However, it added that the 40 per cent green vehicle rebate will no longer be offered on new cars from 2012.

It also said CNG will be taxed at the pumps from that year, starting with 20 cents per kg of gas.

With the clarity, will consumers warm to natural gas again? Should they?

The short answer: It depends. If they have the means to buy a bi-fuel Mercedes-Benz E-class (the only purpose-built CNG car available here), and a refuelling station is within easy reach, then they should definitely go for CNG.

The fuel is relatively clean and inexpensive. Even after a 20 cent/kg duty is levied on it from 2012, CNG is likely to be cheaper than petrol.

Currently, CNG is retailing at about $1.20 per kg, or 89 cents per equivalent litre. That is about 60 cents lower than 95-octane petrol.

Converting a conventional petrol-powered car to run on CNG is a less attractive option. But it can still be viable if you are prepared to live with an appreciably smaller boot, or in some instances, fewer seats.

Much depends on who retrofits your car. A poorly converted car will have lower efficiency, less refinement and questionable dependability.

Currently, there is no industry certification or auditing body. So the consumer has to suss out for himself which outfits are competent.

Hint: Find out how long a retrofitter has been in the business, and visit the facility to get an impression of how well-run it is.

Again, a refuelling station - preferably a big one - must be within easy reach.

Next, the choice of car. It is foolish to convert something that is compact and already fuel-efficient. Likewise, it would be counterproductive to convert a sports car.

Obviously, the space the kit takes up, and the weight it adds (about 70kg) would be quite detrimental to such cars.

A bigger car can afford the space; and its suspension and braking system are more likely to be able to withstand the additional and unevenly-distributed weight of a CNG kit better.

Certain engine types may not be suitable for conversion, including turbocharged, supercharged, direct-injected and engines with sophisticated valve timing and lift control.

The rule of thumb: The simpler the engine, the more trouble-free the conversion.

For Singapore, a sizeable CNG vehicle population is desirable. Firstly, it reduces our complete dependence on oil. The competition that gas will bring to the fuels market should also help keep pump prices in check.

Finally, let us look at the environmental benefits of going CNG (if any).

Compared with diesel vehicles - from public buses to heavy trucks and taxis with 20-year-old engine technologies - CNG is as clean as a whistle.

Even when compared with our cars - among the youngest population in the world - CNG is superior, notably in terms of carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide emissions.

But as Singapore adopts more stringent emission standards, and legislates cleaner fuels, the present environmental advantage of gas may diminish.

Advances in hybrid technology, electric propulsion systems, and perhaps even hydrogen know-how will soon bring new possibilities to folk seeking alternatives to the petrol and diesel choices available today.

Until then, going gas is a reasonably affordable way to do your bit for the environment, and save several hundred dollars at the pumps each year in the process.

Then again, you can do practically the same by picking a fuel-efficient petrol car and adopting good driving habits. The only thing is, you will not enjoy the 40 per cent tax break with this option.

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source : straitstimes.com

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(News) World's biggest CNG station opens
« Reply #68 on: September 10, 2009, 09:24:45 AM »
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World's biggest CNG station opens 
 
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CLEANER cars look set to get more popular, with the opening of the world's biggest compressed natural gas (CNG) refuelling station here yesterday, with others slated to follow.

The S$60-million, 7,066 sq m C-nergy station in Toh Tuck has 46 pumps and can serve up to 20,000 vehicles daily.
 
Since it started running a month ago, it has been serving 1,500 vehicles daily.

At its official opening yesterday, C-nergy's operator, Union Energy Corporation, announced that it will open four more stations by 2012, possibly inWoodlands, Changi and Toa Payoh.

Another CNG retailer, Smart Energy, which runs two stations in Mandai and Serangoon North, is in talks to open its third station in the eastern part of Singapore by the end of this year. That station will have two pumps and serve up to 1,000 vehicles daily.

With these additions, the number of CNG stations here will double from five to 10 by 2012.

CNG is gas that has been compressed so it can be transported in pressure valves instead of pipelines. It is more environmentally friendly than petrol or diesel, as it releases less emissions.

Union Energy Corporation managing director Teo Kiang Ang, 60, said that the building of more refuelling stations is likely to spark greater demand for CNG vehicles here.

Smart Energy general manager William Chua, 51, agreed: "As more CNG stations open, people will find it more convenient to refuel. This will improve their perception of CNG and make them more open to the idea of driving CNG vehicles."

The number of CNG vehicles here has been burgeoning, from 119 in 2005, when there was just one CNG station on Jurong Island, to 4,200 now.

Taxis will push the growth further. Mr Teo, who is also managing director of Trans-Cab, said that he plans to expand his fleet of CNG taxis from 1,000 to more than 8,000 in the next five years. The company now owns more than 3,000 cabs, out of Singapore's total of 24,440.

Lawyer Raymond Fong, 47, switched from a sports utility vehicle to a CNG car last year, when petrol prices soared to more than S$2 a litre. He pays S$1.32 for 1kg of CNG.

The Choa Chu Kang resident said: "I've saved 40 per cent in fuel costs since switching to CNG. The Toh Tuck facility is more convenient for drivers as it is near two expressways."

 
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Re: CNG cars can mod?
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Re: CNG cars can mod?
« Reply #70 on: July 31, 2010, 03:13:15 AM »
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Re: [NGV] Alternative Fuel aka CNG
« Reply #71 on: July 31, 2010, 03:24:55 AM »
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CNG bus caught fire
« Reply #72 on: August 16, 2010, 02:23:40 AM »
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A private King Long CNG bus caught fire outside the Christian Columbarium (The Garden Of Remembrance) along Old Choa Chu Kang Road yesterday morning at 7.25am. The bus was fetching SAF soldiers. After the soldiers had alighted at Old Choa Chu Kang Road, the bus started to move off but the engine caught fire shortly after. The bus was soon engulfed in flames.

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The bus driver, Mr Chan Beng San, suffered serious burns after the tried to put off the fire by himself but failed.  He was now fighting for his life in hospital.  [:(]

the bus that burnt is a new bus, only 9 months old

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Tampines to get CNG station in 2011
« Reply #73 on: December 23, 2010, 03:37:34 AM »
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Tampines to get CNG station in 2011

Singapore, December 22 - By the middle of next year, owners of 5,500 or so compressed natural gas (CNG) vehicles plying here - half of them cabs - can top up at one more refuelling station.

This will bring their number in Singapore to six.

Union Energy, which runs Trans-Cab, Singapore’s second-biggest cab company, has secured a 100,000 sq ft site in Tampines Street 92 to build a CNG station - its second since opening a 76,000 sq ft facility in Old Toh Tuck Road a little over a year ago.

The company, owned by businessman Teo Kiang Ang, has also made a bid for rival Smart Taxis’ two CNG stations in Mandai and Serangoon.

Although discussions on the purchase of Smart’s stations have stalled, Mr Teo said that ‘if the price is right, we can talk again’.

If he is eventually successful in his bid, he will practically have a monopoly of the CNG refuelling market.

There are only two other small refuelling kiosks - in Jalan Buroh and on Jurong Island, both operated by joint ventures between Singapore Petroleum Company and Sembcorp Gas.

CNG is considered to be environmentally friendlier than petrol and diesel because it produces less carbon and other emissions. It is also cheaper, costing around $1.40 a kg. One kg of gas is equivalent to 1.3 litres of petrol, which today costs $1.90 a litre.

CNG is currently duty-free. But even if a duty of 20 cents a kg is phased in from 2012, as has been announced, it is likely to still be cheaper than petrol.

Mr Teo did not want to reveal his offer price for Smart’s stations, saying it was confidential.

Mr Johnny Harjantho, managing director of Smart, also declined to shed light on why the deal fell through.

When asked why he is selling the stations, Mr Harjantho said: ‘I am a businessman, so whoever makes me an offer, I will look at it. I’m here to make profit.’

Trans-Cab’s Tampines refuelling station will also house a taxi workshop that will help it cope with a fast-expanding fleet.

Mr Teo said half of his fleet of about 4,000 taxis run on diesel, and the other half on CNG. ‘I’m expanding for the future,’ he said.

Recently, he also said that he was aiming to grow his cab fleet - second only to ComfortDelGro’s 15,600 - to 8,000 by 2014.

But he added a qualifier yesterday: ‘If the situation allows, we will,’ he said, referring to the escalating certificate of entitlement (COE) prices.

COE prices - which have trebled from a year ago to more than $47,000 for cabs - are expected to have a significant impact on larger operators because they usually have a bigger pool of ageing cabs to replace.

ComfortDelGro spokesman Tammy Tan, however, said her company’s fleet is relatively young.

‘We are watching COE prices closely and may slow the replacement of our fleet if the increases persist,’ she said. ‘We have no plans at this point to increase rentals.’

Smart’s Mr Harjantho said COE prices are not the only problem cab companies are facing.

‘COE is No. 1, but we are also finding it hard to manage insurance costs,’ he said.

Insurance companies are generally reluctant to cover taxis because of their relatively high accident claims. Those which do often impose a high ‘excess’ - an initial amount the insured is liable for before the insurer pays.

‘Our excess is $5,000 a cab,’ Mr Harjantho said, adding that insurance-related expenses cost Smart ‘millions of dollars’ each year.

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Re: CNG
« Reply #74 on: October 28, 2011, 06:05:28 AM »
is CNG dead in Singapore already?