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Monks, Nuns, Priests, Pastors
« on: July 09, 2007, 09:21:50 AM »
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July 8, 2007    
EXPOSED: 50 FAKED MONKS & NUNS
All holed up in Geylang
Using the guise of religious robes, Thais on social visit passes have been preying on the sensibilities of heartlanders
By Ben Nadarajan & Teh Joo Lin


(LEFT) COLLECTING ALMS under false pretenses can attract a jail term of up to three months or a $2,000 fine, or both.
(RIGHT) TO AVOID being spotted, they leave the motel singly for lunch - caps on heads.
-- ST PHOTOS: EDWIN KOO & DESMOND LIM


A FOUR-STOREY motel smack in the red light district of Geylang has been the hideaway for groups of bogus monks and nuns who make their way from northern Thailand in and out of Singapore for quick pickings.

Numbering as many as 100, they take refuge in Lorong 28 in Geylang, venturing out in the mornings for their 'alms' rounds.

At any one time, there could be 20 or 30 of them. Last week, there were about 50 of them.

They are Thais on social visit passes who use the guise of religious robes to prey on the sensibilities of HDB heartlanders. The scam has been going on for at least two years.

The whole group made a quick exit on Friday afternoon, after police came sniffing around their lodgings the night before.

In twos and threes, they lugged their backpacks and trolley bags onto taxis and made their way to Golden Mile Complex in Beach Road.


After exchanging Singapore currency for Thai baht, they boarded coaches headed for Johor Baru, herded by a Thai man who appeared to be in charge of the logistics.

'I am scared I'll get arrested,' said a 21-year-old who readily admitted that he was no monk. 'If I am thrown in jail, I will have no future,' he said, adding that he was harbouring hopes of returning as a construction worker.

Under the Miscellaneous Offences Act, anyone who collects alms or solicits charitable contributions under false pretences can be fined up to $2,000 or jailed up to three months, or both.

A police spokesman said they had conducted checks at the lodging house in Geylang but 'did not note any offence'. 'The occupants were advised that begging for money without a licence is an offence in Singapore.'

Speaking through an interpreter, the fake monk said he was on his third masquerade in Singapore.

The objective: To collect as much money as he could on his alms-begging rounds before his social visit pass expired.

The farmer from Khon Kaen was here for only five days before the police came. His collection: about $30 to $40 a day, far less than what an aggressive monk could get, he said.

'Last time, we used to earn more. Now, there are too many of us,' he lamented.

The Sunday Times team discovered the presence of the group after tailing a monk who was at a popular hawker centre in Bedok North last Sunday.

Barefoot and clad in earthy yellow robes, the bald man was moving around the tables silently with a wooden bowl in hand.

Some patrons parted with coins and small notes, and were rewarded with a reverent bow.

The tall and gaunt monk ended up at the nameless four-storey building in Lorong 28, Geylang, which is shielded from the road by a cardboard wall mounted at the gate.

Sunday Times checks showed the group had taken 12 rooms in all, occupying the third and fourth floors. The first two floors are rooms for rent by the hour.

Neighbouring shopkeepers know of their presence, but declined to say more beyond that 'they are always around'.

The bogus monks were reticent when approached but from what those who spoke let slip, whoever pulled the strings ran a well-oiled operation.

The men and women head straight for the motel when they arrive in Singapore.

Armed with their own novice religious robes, they pay the motel $10 a night for accommodation.

On the first few days, a Thai man takes them in hand, showing them how to take a bus to various hawker centres. At the end of three days, they are to pay the 'guide' 10,000 baht or $483.

They are then left on their own to collect what money they can.

The Venerable Phramaha Rian Manone-Yang, honorary-secretary of the Thai Buddhist Temple in Singapore, said these fake monks operate in syndicates which are based in Johor and Hatyai in southern Thailand.

The gang leaders work closely with their partners in Singapore, who pocket 30 per cent of their collections, he added.

The monk, who is based in a temple in Jalan Bukit Merah, said he knows of a fake monk who admitted that he made about $800 in a day.

'They do not just ask for money, they also sell fake Buddhist amulets for as much as $50.'

The Venerable Manone-Yang said real monks asked for only food, not money. And they can do this only between 6am and 8am.

The Geylang 'monks' and 'nuns' have a ritual, as a Sunday Times stake-out outside the motel showed.

The lights on their floors come on at about 5am.

Half an hour later, the men, with shaven heads, barefoot and in saffron robes of varying shades of red, orange or brown, and white-robed women with their hair bunned up at the back of the head, start streaming out singly or in pairs.

They catch a bus along Guillemard Road, Sims Avenue and Geylang Road, fanning out to the HDB heartland of Marine Parade, Bedok and Tampines. They pay for their bus fares with coins.

On their begging rounds, they do not utter a word, merely holding out a wooden alms bowl in front of them.

Retiree Choo Kian Watt, 66, who has breakfast regularly at a coffee shop in Bedok North Road, sees them often.

'I used to give a dollar or two, but since I stopped working, I give less frequently now,' said the former odd-job labourer.

'I never doubted if they were real or not. I give when I'm in a good mood.'

By noon, most of the men are back at the motel. They usually head straight for a woman in the lobby, overturn their alms bowls and exchange their coins for notes.

Some of the 'monks' said the woman takes $1 for every $50 worth of coins.

Then it is back up to their rooms and into casual wear - T-shirts and bermudas.

Their robes are tossed casually over the staircase railings.

Clearly worried about being spotted as 'monks', they leave the motel singly when they go out for lunch - caps on heads and even wigs for some. They end up at a coffee shop several lanes away.

The more hardworking 'monks' do a second round in the afternoon. As for the 'nuns', they return only in the evening, with packets of food - never venturing out again until the next morning.

One 'monk' said: 'We are told not to go anywhere but back to the room. We're scared that people who have donated money to us will see us,' he said.

Some, though, are more adventurous. The Sunday Times tailed a pair to a Thai pub in Geylang and even spotted one 'monk' with a woman friend.

Their masquerade came to an abrupt end when police, tipped off by The Sunday Times, decided to check on them to see if their passports were in order.

By lunchtime the next day, they were packed up and ready to leave. Scuttling out of the building, one 'monk' told The Sunday Times that they had been 'forced to quit'.

When confronted, the woman who appears to be running the motel denied that there were monks staying there. Her male friend said the Thais in the motel were merely looking for their friends.

Then the duo refused to take further questions and scurried back into the building. Soon after, taxis with 'on call' signs showed up, to take the remaining Thais away.

Before his coach departed Beach Road, one of the 'monks' said: 'We know people will give to monks. We know it's wrong but we need the money.'

With that, he went up the bus, sat down and waved goodbye with a smile.

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If the police is not going to arrest these bogus monks & nuns begging in the public, very soon S'pore will earn the world's recognition for being a Beggars' Hub.

The Beggars' Hub will add on to the list of other hubs: Aviation, Education, Biolpois, Medic-tourist etc.

Very soon beggars from other parts of the world, belonging to different religious faiths will make S'pore their 2nd home.

These bogus monks & nuns behave like parasites and make the donors look like suckers.
Posted by: time4siesta at Sun Jul 08 21:50:20 SGT 2007
Perhaps the Authorities need to clarify if legitimate Temples in Singapore have permits for their monks to 'beg' from the public, and that such permist must be displayed.
Otherwise they can be arrested. Such a practice may discourage 'fake' monks from elsewhere coming here to 'beg'.
Posted by: jlfhui at Sun Jul 08 17:26:23 SGT 2007
"...begging for money without a licence is an offence in Singapore". How to apply for a begging licence?
Posted by: ccfoo at Sun Jul 08 17:04:12 SGT 2007
Why the POLICE cannot act?
It is quite puzzling.

With such coverage by SPH reporters
and the POLICE just visit
and let the culprit goes. . .

It is amazing
Could it be the "NOT MY PROBLEM" syndrome
with the Civil Service
Posted by: energieman at Sun Jul 08 09:51:10 SGT 2007

read it on sammyboymod

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RE: EXPOSED: 50 FAKED MONKS & NUNS
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2007, 09:34:08 AM »
personally i do not give money to beggars - whether he is a monk or blind. A lot of them are fakes or are working for a syndicate. Trying to solicit money from sympathy.

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via Stomp : Monk joins punters' queue at S'pore Pools outlet
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2008, 01:51:39 AM »


Monk joins punters' queue at S'pore Pools outlet
Is this a bogus monk then, asks a STOMPer, who came across this sight.
 
YC Ngor told STOMP:

"Saw this monk queuing to place a bet at the Singapore Pools outlet.
 
"A policeman was walking past that shop and was caught in the shot.
 
"Did he stop to think if that monk is a fake (given the recent issues of fake monks and nuns in Geylang area)? Go figure."

via : http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/singaporeseen/viewContent.jsp?id=25091

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Re: via Stomp : Monk joins punters' queue at S'pore Pools outlet
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2008, 03:09:26 AM »
"Chiong" one....

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Re: via Stomp : Monk joins punters' queue at S'pore Pools outlet
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2008, 09:20:55 AM »
He's trying to win something for his temple mah...hahaha... ;D :D


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Re: via Stomp : Monk joins punters' queue at S'pore Pools outlet
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2008, 10:10:36 AM »
Not chiong, dressing up like a monk is his sideline. LOL

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Re: via Stomp : Monk joins punters' queue at S'pore Pools outlet
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2008, 11:07:48 AM »
Not chiong, dressing up like a monk is his sideline. LOL

Ya huh..Part-time monk..hahaha.. ;D :D


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Re: via Stomp : Monk joins punters' queue at S'pore Pools outlet
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2008, 05:01:04 PM »
there's no such thing as part-time monk... only fake monks.

but you can be a part-time pastor and have kids :D

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Re: via Stomp : Monk joins punters' queue at S'pore Pools outlet
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2008, 04:53:38 AM »
there's no such thing as part-time monk... only fake monks.

but you can be a part-time pastor and have kids :D

The ang moh call p/t pastor, chinese call p/t monks...tat means can hav kids oso liow lor..Wahaha.. :D ;D :P


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Re: via Stomp : Monk joins punters' queue at S'pore Pools outlet
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2008, 05:13:42 AM »
Thai monkhood is like National Service to us .... but not compulsory and back to normal life after "ROD". :)


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who is Goh Kah Heng?
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2009, 02:43:09 AM »
as above.

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Re: who is Goh Kah Heng?
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2009, 01:54:08 PM »
he is MingYi.

Sentenced 10 months.

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Ming Yi sentenced to 10 months jail; his aide Raymond Yeung gets 9 months jail
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2009, 02:50:07 PM »
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1019607/1/.html
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Ming Yi sentenced to 10 months jail; his aide Raymond Yeung gets 9 months jail
By Shaffiq Alkhatib, 938LIVE | Posted: 21 November 2009 1143 hrs

   Ming Yi sentenced to 10 months jail; his aide Raymond Yeung gets 9 months jail

SINGAPORE: The ex-CEO of Ren Ci Hospital, Ming Yi has been sentenced to ten months jail. A district court has also sentenced his former aide, 34-year-old Raymond Yeung to nine months' imprisonment.

47-year-old Ming Yi, whose real name is Goh Kah Heng and Raymond Yeung were convicted last month of falsifying Ren Ci payment vouchers.

The pair was involved in an unauthorised loan of S$50,000 made in 2004 to the Mandala Buddhist Cultural Centre, a religious artefact shop managed by Yeung.

They were also convicted of giving false information to the Commissioner of Charities.

District Judge Toh Yung Cheong said Ming Yi had abused his authority and betrayed the trust given to him.

He said the money could have been used to help the poor and needy patients.

In mitigation, Ming Yi's lawyer Senior Counsel Andre Yeap argued against a jail sentence.

He said the "tsunami-sized" shame Ming Yi endured because of the trial is punishment enough.

He said Ming Yi had helped a lot of people even risking his life when performing physical stunts to raise money for Ren Ci.

Moreover, he also did not personally profit from the loan to Yeung.

But the prosecution, DPP Jaswant Singh, said a tough stand is needed when charitable funds are misused.

Moreover, Yeung put the money to "frivolous" use to renovate a friend's flat in Hong Kong.

Both Ming Yi and Yeung have filed an appeal.

Andre Yeap, Ming Yi’s lawyer, said: "We actually have ten days to file a notice of appeal against sentencing. But for administrative reasons, we were told we have to file a notice of appeal today, so that's been filed. I believe Raymond has filed a notice of appeal also for the same reason."

Both Ming Yi and Yeung had filed an appeal against their conviction last month.

Both men are now out on bail. Ming Yi's was set at S$450,000 while Yeung's is S$200,000. - 938LIVE/vm

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Re: who is Goh Kah Heng?
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2009, 12:48:07 AM »
any news on what happened to their personal wealth? will it be confiscated? if not,  the penalty is a small price for them.

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Quote from: MinMin;7905514
Lawyer for convicted monk Ming Yi says Judge "swayed" by irrelevant evidence



SINGAPORE: The trial judge who convicted the founder to Ren Ci Hospital, Ming Yi last year "appeared to have been swayed" by prosecution's evidence of the monk's "lavish lifestyle".

That's what Ming Yi's lawyer, Senior Counsel Andre Yeap said on Tuesday in his High Court appeal against his client's conviction and sentence.

Ming Yi, whose real name is Goh Kah Heng, had bought assets in Australia in 1998.

These include a plot of land, a BMW car and country club membership.

In his appeal, Mr Yeap said, the trial judge "appeared to have accepted" that Ming Yi enjoyed "an upper class lifestyle" and was "therefore was more likely to be guilty" of the charges against him.

Mr Yeap added that it would be "unrealistic to compare the lifestyle of a traditional monk with a current day" one.

Ming Yi was earlier convicted on charges over an unauthorised S$50,000 loan made in 2004.

He was also found guilty of giving false information to the Commissioner of Charities.

Ming Yi's former aide, Raymond Yeung, who used to manage Mandala, a religious artefact shop, was convicted of similar charges.

For these offences, the monk was sentenced to ten months' jail while Yeung was given nine.

During the trials, Yeung had earlier said that the S$50,000 from Ren Ci was for a personal loan even though it was accounted as one to Mandala.

Yeung's lawyer, Ng Lip Chih told Justice Tay Yong Kwang that his client had forgotten to record the amount in the store's book.

However, Justice Tay said that if it was a genuine loan, Yeung should have just said that he had forgotten to record it when he was asked about it.

The judge added that the effort to "plaster over the event raises a lot of questions".

As he put it, it was like "digging a 20-foot tunnel to bury a small ant".

Similarly, Deputy Public Prosecutor David Chew said that the appellants shouldn't have tried to hide the loan if it was legitimate.

Instead, the first thing they should have done was to inform other parties about the matter.

They include Ernst and Young, the professional services company appointed to review the case.

Justice Tay will give his judgment at a later date. - CNA/vm

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